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  • #6309
    Imprezzio
    Imprezzio
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    Oh! haha! Didn’t realize the connection. Do you have any other cases where you’ve had the same tour uploaded on different listings? Maybe I could look to see if it has the same pattern. I’ve honestly never seen this scenario before.

    The closed listing could be causing the issue. The reason why I’m not sold on that is it doesn’t follow any of the patterns I’m seeing on cases I’ve dealt with.

    #6310
    Linda Buquet
    Linda Buquet
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    I’m still betting on the main problem being the dupe.

    JR even though you made changes Google has not picked them up yet.

    Cache is still for 12/15 so Google is still seeing the home page as the URL.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qE5mvUtalFoJ:https://plus.google.com/%2BDrJeffMillerMandeville+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us%20&strip=1

    I think within 2 weeks or once cache updates the problem could resolve.

    But I could be wrong and Joy may have something with the BV. I’ve never heard of that either but with Google local anything is possible and I do think having a BV sends a very strong trust signal to Google. If it was me I’d actually remove from the Dr listing too.

    You could tell client it’s a suspected and previously unknown bug that you are investigating just to try to uncover any potential issue that could be affecting ranking. (So even tho a little egg on face, it makes it sound like you are super smart to have uncovered and going the extra mile to try to correct.)

    #6314
    Linda Buquet
    Linda Buquet
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    (On the cache link above, scroll down and you’ll still see the original long description too.)

    Oh and FYI I personally would not have removed that URL. Google will still make the connection to the site. I would rather CONTROL that connection and tell her to look at the Dr page. She’ll likely add it back in any and it will end up being a home page link again.

    • This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by Linda Buquet Linda Buquet.
    #6316
    J.R. Portman
    J.R. Portman
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    I can give you two other cases where I’ve uploaded the same tour to multiple listings, and in the first scenario I was told to do this by my coordinator at G, though they make it clear they know nothing about SEO and its relationship to Business View. When we upload a tour, we build it from scratch every time, not just build the tour once and link it to whatever listings we want, so I don’t know how Google would be able to tell it is the same images or anything. But check out the example below and maybe you see similar behavior:

    3 businesses under one roof:
    https://plus.google.com/+DanceQuarterNewOrleans/
    https://plus.google.com/107380068984513676359/
    https://plus.google.com/+NOLASpacesNewOrleans/

    This is a practice/practitioner scenario
    https://plus.google.com/106664750102358098537/about?hl=en
    https://plus.google.com/100080706327606552281/about?hl=en

    #6317
    J.R. Portman
    J.R. Portman
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    Thanks for the head’s up Linda, I added the Dr page link back.
    Is there an instructional somewhere on using the webcache so I can learn how?
    I like your “it’s a bug” explanation, though I am also partial to “your puny mind wouldn’t understand my mysterious ways!”

    #6318
    Linda Buquet
    Linda Buquet
    Member

    Find listing in G. Click to view web cache. The page will be blank. At end of URL string add &strip=1 and voila! You’ll see the text. Tip thanks to JOY!

    Don’t have time to do another deep dive but on the Case listings, the Dr ranks in the pack instead of the practice as well.

    Plus if there is more than one Dr his name is wrong, per the new guidelines.

    But if he’s a sole practitioner and plans to stay that way, then that one has a dupe situation. (Both should not have the practice name.)

    DON’T make any changes just based on my quick comments above. This is VERY complicated, should start a new thread if you need help figuring that one out or want me to explain more, so we don’t get that one all mixed up in this long thread.

    #6319
    J.R. Portman
    J.R. Portman
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    Thanks Linda-

    To be clear, I only photographed tours for these clients and I have nothing to do with their listings and SEO. I know they have issues, but they aren’t my problem to bare unless the hire me some day to deal with it.

    #6320
    Linda Buquet
    Linda Buquet
    Member

    One last point. I would not keep tweaking stuff. It sometimes causes a suspension.

    That’s partly why I said don’t make changes to that other listing without fully understanding everything.

    In my training I teach to thoroughly eval everything, check with client or others if you need to. Then make all your corrections at once, get it right and leave it if you can. Tweak, tweak, tweak, is what spammers often do, so it can trip a filter.

    That’s why it’s hard helping in forums on complicated cases with multi-faceted problems. You are going back and forth piece meal just adding a little tip here or there instead of being able to take a deep dive and find all the problems, lay them all out and recommend all the changes in a logical order.

    #6321
    Imprezzio
    Imprezzio
    Participant

    For Case Family Dental (more similar situation since practitioner/practice):

    I searched “Dentist Covington LA” and get the practitioner listing. Practice listing is nowhere to be found.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=dentist+covington+la&safe=off&biw=2560&bih=1326&gl=us&tbm=lcl&ei=hKCZVMGhLqHbsAT12ICgBw&start=0&sa=N&dpr=0.75
    I searched “Dental Clinic Covington LA” and the practice listing is there instead, practitioner listing is nowhere to be found.

    I cannot find a SERP that lists them both together (same as your other example)

    However, I noticed the categories on the 2 listings are not the same. One is Dentist (Practitioner) and one is Dental Clinic (practice). Same with your Mandeville example – the practitioners are both listed as doctors only (not chiropractors). So it could be that they aren’t showing for the same SERP because of that. As an experiment you could try adding “Chiropractor” as a category to Jeff Miller’s listing to see if it’s category related?

    #6322
    Linda Buquet
    Linda Buquet
    Member

    Oh didn’t realize you only did BV for Case.

    Still it’s telling that it’s the same problem. So could either be the dupe needs minimized OR could be something to do with BV on both.

    #6323
    J.R. Portman
    J.R. Portman
    Participant

    Thank you for the warning Linda, I’ll let it sit for a bit.

    Joy – the practitioner listings used to have the “chiropractor” category as their primary, as well as other sub categories, but I changed the primary category to “doctor” a few days ago in an effort to solve this issue and keep the IP listings from competing with the main listing.

    I uploaded BV to both the business and the IP listings so I’m not sure what you are referencing with “Oh didn’t realize you only did BV for Case.”

    #6324
    Linda Buquet
    Linda Buquet
    Member

    “I uploaded BV to both the business and the IP listings so I’m not sure what you are referencing with “Oh didn’t realize you only did BV for Case.”

    No sorry, I meant I didn’t realize you only did BV not SEO.

    I guess you know it but I didn’t see the other practitioner page til now.

    https://plus.google.com/106655715139305479991/about?gl=us&hl=en

    Looks like you minimized it but also has BV.

    I need to go run and help a bunch of other folks. Hope this was all helpful.

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