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  • #6276
    J.R. Portman
    J.R. Portman
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    Hmmmm. That would suck if it were the Tour since I charged them to upload it to multiple listings! I don’t think the tour has much to do with it though because they were already having these issues before I came along and added tours, plus I’ve never heard anyone say that BV has any SEO effect at all, so if it IS effecting rank it would be proof positive, but in a weird scenario of course.

    The Ind. Pract. listings should have really low authority with G as they have virtually no citational build so i’m surprised that either of them show up at all. Doesn’t G intentionally not show a practice/practtcioner listings in the same SERP?

    #6277
    Linda Buquet
    Linda Buquet
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    Joy he said the issue is the practice is not ranking in the pack.

    I don’t see the practice in the pack either for Mandeville Chiropractor either. I see the Dr listing so that’s the main problem I think.

    I told him how to minimize the Dr listing which normally lets the practice rank higher.

    JR you just minimized it a few days ago. It can take a couple weeks for that to work.

    CONFIRMED: Here is Google cache of the Dr page. (Can’t see cache in G+ without a hack and the hack only shows bare text.) But go here, mouse over or click link and you’ll see in cache the link change on the page has not updated yet. It’s still linked to home.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qE5mvUtalFoJ:https://plus.google.com/%2BDrJeffMillerMandeville+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&strip=1

    Plus as extra precaution, I would strip the description on the Drs listing down more if you already did. You still have Chiropractor/chiropractic twice. Northshore twice and state once.

    • This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by Linda Buquet Linda Buquet.
    #6280
    Linda Buquet
    Linda Buquet
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    Posted over you so didn’t see your last post JR.

    I don’t think BV has a direct ranking benefit.

    BUT in my advanced training I always talk about the local algo being like a kindergartener. Very smart in many ways but easily confused.

    So there are a wide variety of signals you can send that tell her THIS listing is important and this other one is not. That’s a little bit of what I told you to do with minimizing the listing, it’s just that has not kicked in yet.

    What adding BV to all listings does I think is tell her, “lookie here, all 3 of these listings are equally important because we took the time/expense to add BV to all 3”. So could be more like a trust/authority signal than a direct ranking signal I think. Plus not sure why you would put a BV on a listing that’s closed, but maybe did that before it was closed.

    • This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by Linda Buquet Linda Buquet.
    #6283
    Imprezzio
    Imprezzio
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    That’s the thing. It’s like Google has linked all 3 of your listings and is only showing 1 at a time. The reason why I mentioned the inside tour is because I noticed it was on all 3 and it’s the same tour so I don’t know if it’s sending Google some type of signal that says “hey – this is the same business”.

    I’m also wondering what impact the stripping down of the practitioner listings will do since the practice listing isn’t there at all currently for that query. Not on page 2, not anywhere.

    Doesn’t G intentionally not show a practice/practtcioner listings in the same SERP?

    In this Search Results page: https://www.google.ca/search?q=Chiropractor+Mandeville+la&safe=off&biw=2364&bih=1189&tbm=lcl&ei=HneYVJezHYH5yQSP34CoAw&start=0&sa=N&gl=us&gws_rd=cr

    Robert Thomson Jr DC, DACNB & Chiropractic Associates-Mndvll both show up
    Marston Jeffrey C DC & James M. Mccue, DC both show up

    Even if I search something different, I never get more than 1 of your 3 listings at a time. (Another example I just tried was Chiropractic clinic mandeville la.

    #6285
    Linda Buquet
    Linda Buquet
    Member

    Joy that search result above is using .ca so will almost always yield different results.

    And I don’t see either of those docs listed. But yes it occasionally happens, since Pigeon that both practice and Dr listing can rank, but not very often.

    I just checked Chiropractor Mandeville la and the practice is ranking B. (With .com, location set to that city.)

    • This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by Linda Buquet Linda Buquet.
    #6287
    Imprezzio
    Imprezzio
    Participant

    Yeah that’s what I’m seeing as well Linda. The &gl=us operator is what I add to my search strings to see the US results (Bright Local told me to do that).

    Can you find a keyword that shows any of the 3 listings together (regardless of position)? So like 1 keyword that shows a practitioner listing as position 2, and another that shows the practice on page 2 position 3 (I made up those numbers)?

    #6290
    Linda Buquet
    Linda Buquet
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    Just did a quick peek and classic shows both but not the closed listing for:
    chiropractor East Causeway Approach Mandeville, LA 70448

    Sorry Joy I don’t have time to look at this one any more. Up to eyeballs in alligators after a server move and am all backed up with help requests all over.

    I just said I’d ping you on the closed listing issue since I thought you’d know more about that. I’ll try to peek back in at some point when I get caught up.

    #6298
    Imprezzio
    Imprezzio
    Participant

    JR,

    Google would probably tell you to leave the listing marked as closed. Personally – I would have never marked it as closed, I would have edited it and changed the business name. Rebranding is kind of a weird situation because there isn’t really any clear guidelines set on what to do and when (too many possible scenarios). My rule of thumb is that if the phone # and business address is the same and there hasn’t been any major changes to the business itself, it’s not a re-brand. So if the customers are the same, the product/service is the same, I would reopen the listing and edit the title and ask to have it merged with the practice listing you manage.

    I work a lot in the insurance world so if a State Farm Insurance agent leaves State Farm and goes to Allstate but keeps their phone number – this is definitely a rebrand. However if an agent leaves State Farm and State Farm appoints a new agent in his place (same office, same phone number), this is not a rebrand. Nothing has changed other than there is a new person running the business (but it’s the same exact business).

    Another Example: If a hotel was a Holiday Inn and then switches to Days Inn, this is definitely a rebrand.

    I’m not fully convinced that your issue is related to this. Before I went down this road, I would remove the website off the practitioner listings to see if that does anything (if your goal is to “derank” that listing so it doesn’t compete with the practice).

    #6304
    J.R. Portman
    J.R. Portman
    Participant

    Linda – Thank you so much for giving me your time and expertise in this matter. I’m still waiting for the Dr. Miller web address to change; I just deleted any website at all from the field to see if this helps. I also deleted the description entirely.

    Joy – Thank you as well for looking into this matter. I agree that before I start deleting BV from the IP listings I should see how the edits I made to Dr. Miller’s listing effect the pack. My fear is that the Miller listing will disappear from the 7, but then the main listing does not replace it and they will have no presence at all in the 7, but we’ll see.

    If I were to reverse the closing of the Wellness Group listing and merge the two, is there a risk of loosing reviews and other data from the main listing? This client has 19 hard-won reviews and that would be horrible if they lost them in the merge.

    #6305
    J.R. Portman
    J.R. Portman
    Participant

    Just in-
    The website is now not showing on the Dr. Miller listing but it is holding steady in the #2 pack spot for “Mandeville Chiropractor.”

    • This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by J.R. Portman J.R. Portman.
    #6307
    Imprezzio
    Imprezzio
    Participant

    Can you have the photographer remove the Tour from the practitioner pages? Or is that a lengthy task? I’m just wondering if it’s somehow connecting the 3 listings since there isn’t a single SERP I can find that shows 2/3 of them together. This isn’t the case for any other practice in your town that I can see.

    #6308
    J.R. Portman
    J.R. Portman
    Participant

    I am the photographer :\
    It is a tricky process to remove a tour, requiring the business to sign a written request to do so. It will leave me with some egg on my face, but I will do it if y’all think it is a source of the problem.

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